Mary first heard Krishnamurti speak in a public talk in Ojai, California in 1944. She met Krishnamurti that same year for a private interview. Although Mary continued to read Krishnamurti’s work, her travels and life with Sam precluded her attending more talks. After Sam Zimbalist’s death, Mary became almost a recluse, but in the early 1960s she traveled to Europe to hear Krishnamurti again. Her contact with Krishnamurti quickly expanded from simply being an admirer to being a friend.